Exploring Dr Stiffler's Spatial Energy Coherence and Spatial Resonance effects.

[mikrovolt]

The PSEC video is very incouraging. It is proof that the concept is Ron Stiffler's work and not a copy of someone else.

The led ring is working so nice, I was trying to imagine it on copper board.
How the traces would work out equivalent to the european connectors.



Good work Doctor Stiffler this is really good.

[Inquorate]

Originally Posted by DRRSTIFFLER

It would be a great aid to all concerned if those individuals around the world that have the required equipment, to measure the level and bandwidth of the Natural Group and report it here. This way a table can be built of success versus background group level. It would be ideal to report in dbm and bandwidth down to 100KHz.

just bringing this forward to the new page. pull strings people, beg some time on a scope and use an ungrounded scope lead hooked on a diode ring off a metal mass, or better yet a specteum analyser.

[wizofid]

Inq - your not posting to yourself! Been a busy week with work and kid move, so I have been sidetracked in all respects. Just catching up and writhing notes as to where to go with some of my interests.

Cheers!

[DRRSTIFFLER]

What does the two PSEC's look like in diagram connected back to back!

[Jules Tresor]

Thank you Dr. Stiffler for amazing us more and more
I am not qualified to talk physics related to your discoveries, but I found a webpage with seemingly interesting data ... with links to University tests ...

http://www.rdwaterpower.com/water-de...st-rostum-roy/

Hope this is useful,
what a mysterious field your are touching here Doc !
thanks and good luck,
JT

[Jules Tresor]

Dr Stiffler,
I just got a light popped up in my mind :
Are you collecting the electricity liberated from the splitting of molecules of water present in the air ? Molecules split by the "Kanzius frequency" you are tuned on and amplifying ?

We know that hydrolysis is splitting the water with electricity, and we know that electrons are liberated, and also that electricity is liberated in the burning of HHO.

Could your circuit be doing both, splitting humidity from the air and collecting some electrons and sending them in the LEDs and second SEC ?

Sorry for the lack of references, I wanted to share the idea asap ...
JT



Here some more info :
Electrolytic splitting of water is well-known. But, as first demonstrated by Faraday, it takes >1.23V to split water into hydrogen and oxygen. The 13.56 MHz RF beam delivers at most 10-8 of the energy required. The resonant coupling into the structure of water that is proposed for the spectacular Kanzius radiation effects may also be due to the specific polarization of the beam used. Roy and colleagues have previously demonstrated in a long series of papers that polarized, very weak electromagnetic fields have profound effects even on solid state materials.

Using specific polarized radiation, radically different phases were synthesized and direct decrystallization of many solids was induced, including the most important phases in the electronic industry: ferrites, barium titanates, and even elemental silicon. In those experiments, 2.45 GHz radiation in a single mode cavity generated the dramatic changes that were documented by X-ray diffraction, scanning and transmission electron microscopy, and Raman spectroscopy [5].

Thus, it is possible that weak electromagnetic fields, appropriately polarized could couple resonantly to certain critical structures in the liquid water that cause the splitting into hydrogen and oxygen.

Roy and colleagues point out [6] that in analogy to crystalline condensed matter such as SiO2 - which is very closely related to H2O in the glassy phase - n number of different phases can coexist in water. So liquid water is by no means homogeneous; and numerous different water structures on the nanometre scale are certain to co-exist. Under different influences, the distributions of these structures will change. That may explain why no two ice crystals are ever the same, which Masaru Emoto has exploited to great effect in deciphering ‘messages from water’ [7] (Crystal Clear – Messages from Water SiS 15).

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/canWaterBurn.php

I'll stop here with giving links, and try to dig the subject more by myself

[Inquorate]

I was thinking that the sun's and cosmic rays and background radioactivity may disassociate the water molecule. this could happen at a wide spectrum of frequencies but the recombining would happen within a narrow band.

[DRRSTIFFLER]

Stupidity runs rampant in the world today, what a shame.

This is a must see post over on a different site that is full of such rhetoric and this is a primary reason this field has moved no place in the public domain.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?t...;topicseen#new

[Lidmotor]

I am following this very closely but I can't do much. My kitchen table "lab" doesn't allow it. Just like Dr. S says-- the PSEC is not going to EVER work for those of us without the proper equipment or understanding.

I looked for the magic frequency yesterday using my feeble PC O-scope spectrum analyser and could not find anything worth mentioning. The experience that I have had with SEC experiments tells me that around 14 mHz is where to look. I know that if you "rattle the cage" with a SEC at that frequency the bird starts to sing and the energy comes out. I guess the question is---- Is the cage already rattling???? Is all that is neccessary is a device to open the door? I don't know. There isn't much that I can do to help here.

I really hope that someone working on this (who has the ability and proper equipment) ----will replicte the now famous PSEC.

Lidmotor

[Inquorate]

seriously people. it doesnt matter what the rf band is caused by. the important part is that the signal (any signal) can be amplified to do real work without any further input.

the circuit is the circuit is the circuit. i'll be replicating when I can, couple of weeks and I should be back in the black financially.

[Jules Tresor]

I don't understand why scientists were surprised by Kanzius discovery of splitting salt water with heat created by focused RF ?
This means it was never tried before, or it means the frequency he was using was the discovery !?

I just ask, because Dr Stiffler referred to water, oxygen and hydrogen and that background frequency ...
So does Dr. means that the effect comes from that specific RF band ?
JT

[DRRSTIFFLER]

I let the cat out of the bag today with two people, so I guess I should preempt any possible leak.

The 'Hybrid Exciters', 'Three Coil System' and the 'PSEC' are all the same. They use the same technology,some with more or less parts, although all variations are in the bottom line, three coil.

Take the PSEC. (1) L3, (2) L2 and (3) C1/L1. In two the srf is critical while the last is set by component and srf.

No! Just any old freq will not work. L3 must be excited at 1/2 its srf for example and this causes L3 to ring at its srf.

The 13-14MHz is only an example showing how small radiations can be used to start the process. It's stupid as shown on another forum to put the system down because the signal could be man made. This same other forum can't even get the connection change right for the xistor.

Yes! The Hybrid uses the same xistor setup as the PSEC, I did not say or show this. The 3 coil system uses a diode. Understand that the mass and ground are interchangeable if configured as such. The whole of the circuits are at very high Z. They must be clear of detuning objects.

[Inquorate]

Originally Posted by DRRSTIFFLER

I let the cat out of the bag today with two people, so I guess I should preempt any possible leak.

The 'Hybrid Exciters', 'Three Coil System' and the 'PSEC' are all the same. They use the same technology,some with more or less parts, although all variations are in the bottom line, three coil.

Take the PSEC. (1) L3, (2) L2 and (3) C1/L1. In two the srf is critical while the last is set by component and srf.

No! Just any old freq will not work. L3 must be excited at 1/2 its srf for example and this causes L3 to ring at its srf.

The 13-14MHz is only an example showing how small radiations can be used to start the process. It's stupid as shown on another forum to put the system down because the signal could be man made. This same other forum can't even get the connection change right for the xistor.

Yes! The Hybrid uses the same xistor setup as the PSEC, I did not say or show this. The 3 coil system uses a diode. Understand that the mass and ground are interchangeable if configured as such. The whole of the circuits are at very high Z. They must be clear of detuning objects.

Very good news :-)

that means that people who can find the srf can tackle the 3 coil system at least, and run their exciters off that :-)

love it when you let the cat out of the bag

[mikrovolt]

I agree that the pumper at approx 14 Mhz is a centering point to aim for.
The SA set to bandwidth of 30 Mhz and center frequency of 15 Mhz is key.
Finding this was the real discovery. adjusting the mass, the length of pigtail, the diode ring
very tedious work -75 db.

A mathmatical expression of a a dirac impulse multiplied by triangle function produces a series the dirac comb.
The comb happens with SEC in different modes, passive or close to neutral, little or no power.
Working in harmony with the lattice using an almost imaginary energy to more effectively obtain a flow.

Multiply a triangle function function times a dirac comb function can be seen p 40 figure (c)
P.42 figure 2.8 shows the real and imaginary spectral contents as related to optical DFT
http://books.google.com/books?id=_xS...nction&f=false

If you recall the second Stiffler video about coupling the L3 using a glass fuse there was what looked like a sine wave with spiked hair.
I see some similarity to the drawings re: dirac function on page 7 of this document
http://www.ocean.washington.edu/cour..._diraccomb.pdf

regarding PSEC diode ring.
I am using: The SEC18 board and Euro Style Barrier Strip sold by Philmore Part No. 13-1208
again the setup of the PSEC video 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8Vai6VdckM
The 14 Mhz natural signal is interesting will be looking forward to information about it.

[Inquorate]

best guess of an sec 18 pcb. image will be removed at dr Stiffler's possible request as it's probably copyrighted. I will try it out soon.

http://www.hereticalbuilders.com/sho...=6879#post6879

edit, Mikrovolt when you add so much in an edit, we don't know unless you do a new post :-)

[Inquorate]

I"be been otherwise occupied for a bit but these things happen. thought i'd share a comment that was made to me on a social forum, I hope they don't mind me reproducing it in part here,

"my SA shows that noise in the band here as well. I have heard the cable company guys (they use SA all the time) complain of troublesome "signals" at 13.8 MHz and most of them are convinced the radiation source is the GRID. That does not, however, say that the grid is the source of the energy. VERY interesting stuff. "

[Inquorate]

Some success. I've had to learn to do seemingly inconsequential settings changes to my scope to see the lattice excitation properly, but have found it, replete with znidarsic frequencies when I attach the scope probe to a metal mass.

In short, the board appears so far to work. To what degree, further playing around will tell.

It's been pointed out to me that the pcb for one of de stiffler's sec 18 boards is on his sec 18 documentation on scribd in that documents appendix. So go and build a board if like me you can't buy one.

Homemade sec board w lattice excitation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPT7h6m4LJo



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[Inquorate]

I was trying to understand how the wikipedia description of a parametric oscillator equates to the sec..

How does the negative resistance ( which we have discovered requires quantum tunneling ) of the pn junction sync with the action of the coil ( determined by the quantum transitional speed wavelength and coil dimensions ) and thence excite the lattice?

Here's the typical parametric oscillator description;

http://www.physics.ucla.edu/demoweb/...cillation.html

And i came across this

www.elmer.unibas.ch/pendulum/parres.htm


"Imagine a media where waves (e.g. sound waves) can propagate. What might happen if the speed of wave is modulated periodically?"

There's something to that but i don't yet understand the significance.


anyway it's been a while and i'm still plugging away. cant find tuning capacitor tools made from ceramic so i'm making changes to my board. it's a bitch to tune atm.

[Inquorate]

it's amazing what a good night's sleep does for grasping a concept.

inagine yourself in a field with two great big walls to either side and a band playing at one end. all you'd hear is a mess of echoes.

now imagine yourself in a desert with clear wind boundaries in the sky keeping areas of different temperatures separate, and a bomb goes off over the horizon. you'd hear the explosion as several relatively clear beats as the soundwaves were forced to change speed.

now consider the radio frequencies caused by an excited electron as it jumps around at alternating speeds; the quantum transformation speed and the speed of light.

now the znidarsic frequencies on the spectrum analyser don't seem so mysterious. they're echos (stable ones and ones that obtain their own energy) of the ones made by the circuit.

now the question is, what does this do to the other half of the equation?

if guitar strings are analogous to electrons, then the guitar is the atomic lattice. both are usualy a random cacophany of noise, but the sec forces a nonlinear resonance. so in this case the lattice itself becomes a parametric oscillator.

i suspect from dr stiffler's last postef schematic that the psec is the mirror image or model of one (resonant) state of the atomic lattice of a block of metal. so is the power atomic?

[Inquorate]

@lidmotor, that'd be the difference between a slayer 'exciter' and a spatial energy coherence circuit; essentially the slayer type circuit doesn't resonate with the particles at both speeds so the energy lattice doesn't go into resonance because there's no feedback between the coil and the transistor and the timing never locks in.. and the waves in the harbour remain random, so to speak.

edit. most circuits probably enter into resonance with the lattice over a long enough timeline but without feeback the event is so unstable it'd be over in a picosecond.